the road to 205 hp

[GR8FLPT]

I just can't see how that spacer would work. The trottle boby is a long way away from the combustion chamber. You woauld think the swirl effect (which is what its ther for) wold be lost with all that turning & bending down the intake manifold. If it were closer, I'd could put more belief in their claims.

Any thoughts on this you power guru's?

[bstockum]

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[JOEM]

Originally posted by GR8FLPT

I guess for the time being I'm gonna have to use bolt on performance till I can spring to have the motor torn down. I do see what you are saying & I am with you on that. I guess you really can't cheat the real #'s by buying a sales pitch.

If all those "gimmicks" out there did what they all claim, we'd all have 250hp beasts. With the amount of money I'd need to spend to get where I'd really like to see my ride at... It's almost cheaper in the long run (& I'd still have a warranty) to buy a Turbo.

All I can tell you is that with the simple bolt-ons I have on the PT Rod, it has considerably more torque and responsiveness than it had "right out of the box" and it's a real hoot to drive. That seat-of-the-pants impression is my "bottom line," not dyno tests and power band graphs. After all, I'm not out to smoke Camaros or race the PT Rod. It has more torque and more power thna it did before in a very safe and secure package and that satisfies me...for the moment.

I rode with FlashBack2 in his Cruiser that has the same mods that I have plus the Crane Cams setup (and necessary heavy-duty valve tensioner, courtesy of Bob Stockum). It's a blast! I think most folks would be happy with the performance of Flashy's Cruiser and we're still not talking turbo or supercharger yet.

I also had the privilege of a ride in Powertrip's Cruiser and it's a head-snapping mofo! It's the ultimate, and I know Brad will schieve 300 genuine horses in his 2.5L very soon. Even the most jaded power junkie would love Brad's pioneering work on his Cruiser. If you want the best, the fastest, and the most reliable high-octane PT Cruiser, Brad and Bob are pointing the way. Follow them.

For me, I think the cam upgrade will more than suit. But that's just me. And I can always change my mind...

[GR8FLPT]

Like I said keep it coming... I'm sure we all will get there soon.

Btw... I want a rematch.

[Docbrock2]

If you want to achieve over 200HP without spending big bucks Nitrous is the way to go. You can jet for a 75HP shot without making any other engine mods. I would suggest however, a different air intake and performance exhaust so the engine can breath properly. I use my car for every day driving and it's great. With a Wide Open Throttle switch the only time the Nitrous comes on is when you hit the arming switch and then put the "pedal to the metal". I haven't had a chance to run against the Turbos or S/C cars yet, but have been told by a very knowledgeable fellow who has ridden in and driven both that mine is quicker. In fact after riding in mine he put a Nitrous system on his own car.

[MOVEOVER!]

Originally posted by renichms
I wouldn't recommend losing the cat-converter, whether you have smog testing or not. The car is designed to use it...it can cause damage.

What kind of damage are you referring to here? The cat-converter offers (at most) 'some' backpressure and that's it. Since the exhaust has already left the engine I don't see how it could cause damage (to it) by removing such, but maybe I'm missing something here. Granted, Big Brother frowns on such, but I just don't see anything occuring (damage-wise) due to it's removal.

[Powertrip]

Originally posted by MOVEOVER!

What kind of damage are you referring to here? The cat-converter offers (at most) 'some' backpressure and that's it. Since the exhaust has already left the engine I don't see how it could cause damage (to it) by removing such, but maybe I'm missing something here. Granted, Big Brother frowns on such, but I just don't see anything occuring (damage-wise) due to it's removal.

The PT ECU uses a dual O2 sesnor system. When the PT's engine is at normal temps, it will occasionally check both O2 sesors readings for comparision. The first one is right in the exhaust manifold, the second is in the middle of the cat. If you were to remove the cat, the two sensors would have identical readings, thus telling the ECU that the catalyst is faulty or blocked. This will fire a fault-code, and cause a performance decrease.
If you think you can just 'remove' the second O2, think again, it just won't work.
Keep your cat. Saves the environment anyhow, and high-performance options are plentiful and cheap.

Brad

[MOVEOVER!]

Originally posted by Powertrip
...This will fire a fault-code, and cause a performance decrease.

I understand this, was just in the dark as to what kind of actual damage he could have been referring to. I would figure most computers nowadays have a 'fail-safe' (or limp-along) mode when a sensor goes bad, otherwise there'd be a lot of cars sitting alongside the roads.

[MOVEOVER!]

Originally posted by Powertrip
If you think you can just 'remove' the second O2, think again, it just won't work.

Looks like you're right about that!

POST CATALYST OXYGEN SENSOR
The post catalyst heated oxygen sensor threads into the outlet end of the catalytic converter. The post catalyst heated oxygen sensor input is used to detect catalytic converter deterioration and fine tune the air fuel ratio. As the converter deteriorates, the input from this sensor begins to match the pre-catalyst sensor input except for a slight time delay. By comparing the inputs from both of these sensors, the PCM calculates catalytic converter efficiency.


When the catalytic converter efficiency drops below emission standards, the PCM stores a diagnostic trouble code and illuminates the Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL).

Taken from http://www.speedtweaks.net/Tips_Tricks.htm#O2Sensors

[GR8FLPT]

Well I guess I have the formula now to do it...


Turbo + $$ * time = real fast PT