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Old 16th June 2003, 03:06 PM
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I may have miss earlier posts on this, but if it wasn't installed correctly at the shop, why did it ever leave? Didn't they feel obligated to fix it to your satisfaction?


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Old 16th June 2003, 03:33 PM
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I may have miss earlier posts on this, but if it wasn't installed correctly at the shop, why did it ever leave? Didn't they feel obligated to fix it to your satisfaction?
They didn't want to finish it until a week after I moved. So, they finished on time. No problems then and I left the state the day after I got it back. Then things have come up and their fittings have almost ALL gone bad since then. The part on the shop is they reused old fittings and locked it all together so tightly, it's almost futile to try and fix it.

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Old 16th June 2003, 03:40 PM
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as you now know, fittings are cheap...

i believe they would get all the old stuff back, and a bill for time, trouble and reworking the entire system...

after you get the system re-plumbed, it should be ok...

you kind of confuse me when you say rewire it... wires carry electricity, lines carry fluid or air...

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Old 16th June 2003, 03:52 PM
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as you now know, fittings are cheap...

i believe they would get all the old stuff back, and a bill for time, trouble and reworking the entire system...

after you get the system re-plumbed, it should be ok...

you kind of confuse me when you say rewire it... wires carry electricity, lines carry fluid or air...

Valves are electric...they require wiring to send signal to them in order to open. The compressor wiring system was the big pain before I fixed that. Now it's just leaks everywhere. The shop obviously did not know well enough what they were doing.

If they do not quickly and effectively take care of their painting jobs for me, they WILL get a bill for my time and it won't be cheap, as I've had to go from knowing NOTHING about this system to being able to build it all over again...and it has taken a LOT of time.

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Old 17th June 2003, 05:35 AM
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Make sure when you go to put the fittings back in don't use loctite. Loctite is meant to hold bolts in place in enviroments that typically see high shock, vibration or temperature changes.
I assume the fittings your using are NPT (tapered thread) and I would reccomend putting some plumbers dope on the thread before installing (this will seal any leaking around the threads themselves). Make sure you don't get any past the end of the thread, if it gets into the valves it can hang up the spools and you'll have to tear it down again and clean them.

I hope you have more luck today.

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RN, sometimes you find expertise in the unlikeliest places. Have you truly plumbed all your local resources? If you haven't, you might still call some of the local garages and auto parts stores to see if there isn't a local air suspension "guru" (I mean a real "guru" ) close enough to make a house call.

I've found that lots of very experienced and knowledgeable folks work out of their home or a small shop (e.g., Magic Pineapple, Bob Stockum) and have more than enough word-of-mouth business to keep busy and not need advertising.

Sorry to hear about your problems...they certainly are unique to me. Good luck.
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Old 17th June 2003, 06:58 AM
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and there you have it, magic words from sheriff joey...

seems he does what a lot of people do, he doesn't read all of the thread or another one that also speaks of this problem, before he throws out his wonderful words of widom...

seems r n has tried that route, and where he's at there is no one around who has the expertise to work on it...

plus, he's like a lot of us, you know, work on it yourself, so you can say, yes, i did that, and i did a good job...

rather than just have a 'body guy', or a 'mechanic guy' who knows your car better than you do...



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Old 17th June 2003, 09:18 AM
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I give up too easily...although I've been working on the car a few weeks now without it able to move.

I've been asking the local "car guys" and parts store people if there is anyone who can help me that they know of. They said to contact "The Chop Shop" and so I did. They didn't know what pressure switches or fittings were. Seeing vehicles around that they've done...they're painted, tinted and slammed...on springs. I have yet to find another car using air ride around here.

Today I label wires, cut them, bring assembly up to house and start pulling it apart. Then I gotta go in someone else's car to get the new fittings, put them in with some of my $.97 teflon tape and then splice wires back together, hook in hoses and hope it all works. It'll take at least 3 hours to fill the tank if I intend to properly listen for leaks while going. It'll probably move TOMORROW though, because I'll want to seal around the new fittings with sealant just like the last new ones I put in...no leaks on them now.

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Old 17th June 2003, 10:20 AM
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you seem to be able to handle the job at hand... the place where you are getting the fittings and such, is there no one there who can point you in the direction of someone who works on air systems or even hydraulic systems?

sheriff joey notwithstanding, i have been around heavy equipment most of my life, and most if not all use an air system to do something, whether it's to assist in shifting the transmission, operating the brakes, locking the tailgate and air ride...

a tractor trailer air-ride system does something of what you want, as the load on the vehicle increases, more air is put in the bags, as the load decreases, air is released... same kind of valves you are using, just automechanically activated rather than electric user controlled, and a lot more heavy duty than you require...

if you can find a guy who works on New-Way or other heavy-duty type suspensions you may be on the road a little faster...

and there you go...
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Old 17th June 2003, 10:25 AM
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you seem to be able to handle the job at hand... the place where you are getting the fittings and such, is there no one there who can point you in the direction of someone who works on air systems or even hydraulic systems?

sheriff joey notwithstanding, i have been around heavy equipment most of my life, and most if not all use an air system to do something, whether it's to assist in shifting the transmission, operating the brakes, locking the tailgate and air ride...

a tractor trailer air-ride system does something of what you want, as the load on the vehicle increases, more air is put in the bags, as the load decreases, air is released... same kind of valves you are using, just automechanically activated rather than electric user controlled, and a lot more heavy duty than you require...

if you can find a guy who works on New-Way or other heavy-duty type suspensions you may be on the road a little faster...

and there you go...
Thanks...I'll be on it all as soon as I find masking tape to label the wires with...it's just a matter of time.

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