Freedom.

The following is taken from an address given by Captain Dave Chambers, CHC, USN (Ret.)
December 1991 on the occasion of the 50th Anniversary of Pearl Harbor.
Delivered to the National Conference on Ministry to the Armed Forces.

"The attack on Pearl Harbor lasted for a shade under two hours.

In the 110 minutes of the attack on Pearl Harbor, our forces suffered 2,403 killed in action, 1,178 wounded in action, 640 that were never accounted for; plus, 188 planes lost, 158 damaged, and every battleship of the Pacific Fleet, eight, crippled or sunk plus other ships. Roosevelt, who was never at a loss for words, said it was "a date that would live in infamy." Military leaders said it was the most disastrous defeat that our military had ever suffered in a single day."

[sub]Until now.[/sub] }

[PTBetts]

Frank (12 Sep, 2001 11:00 a.m.):Military leaders said it was the most disastrous defeat that our military had ever suffered in a single day."

[sub]Until now.[/sub] }

Unfortunately, most of the loss at Pearl was military. Yesterday's attack was mostly civilian. But I consider both events acts of war.

[Cranberry Dan]

Frank (12 Sep, 2001 11:00 a.m.):
The following is taken from an address given by Captain Dave Chambers, CHC, USN (Ret.)
December 1991 on the occasion of the 50th Anniversary of Pearl Harbor.
Delivered to the National Conference on Ministry to the Armed Forces.

"The attack on Pearl Harbor lasted for a shade under two hours.

In the 110 minutes of the attack on Pearl Harbor, our forces suffered 2,403 killed in action, 1,178 wounded in action, 640 that were never accounted for; plus, 188 planes lost, 158 damaged, and every battleship of the Pacific Fleet, eight, crippled or sunk plus other ships. Roosevelt, who was never at a loss for words, said it was "a date that would live in infamy." Military leaders said it was the most disastrous defeat that our military had ever suffered in a single day."

[sub]Until now.[/sub] }

Unless you include the Battle of Antietam during the Civil War when around 9,000 Americans were killed or died from their wounds and 15,000 were wounded. I am constantly surprised how many Americans don't realize that the Civil War was our most bloodiest and the numbers are truely staggering.

Myself, I don't make a distinction between American civilian deaths and American military deaths.

Cranberry Dan (12 Sep, 2001 03:12 p.m.):
Unless you include the Battle of Antietam during the Civil War when around 9,000 Americans were killed or died from their wounds and 15,000 were wounded. I am constantly surprised how many Americans don't realize that the Civil War was our most bloodiest and the numbers are truely staggering.

Myself, I don't make a distinction between American civilian deaths and American military deaths.

You are so right.

But that was our Civil War.

The reason I posted that excerpt was to show to the world that even though Pearl Harbor was a an attack on the United States by a known force and cemented the second world war.

You cannot use one analogize against the other for they are all different.

This is what is President Bush said Today.

" The American people need to know we're facing a different enemy than we have ever faced.

This enemy hides in shadows and has no regard for human life.

This is an enemy who preys on innocent and unsuspecting people, then runs for cover, but it won't be able to run for cover forever.

This is an enemy that tries to hide, but it won't be able to hide forever.

This is an enemy that thinks its harbors are safe, but they won't be safe forever.

This enemy attacked not just our people but all freedom-loving people everywhere in the world."

Frank