Oh boy, bush is just wonderful!

[OC Cruzer]

Originally Posted by taikuchin

I'd like to see the reference on this one & read the entire quote. Believing there were wmd & convincing the country that we were in danger of immediate attack (the big lie) in order to make a pre-emptive attack (remember Pearl Harbor) are somewhat different. Dubya lied to everyone & even some Democrats in congress believed him. Bush is a liar.. & it's proven almost daily.

I'll find it for you.

Meanwhile, check out the hypocrisy of the democrats.

ESPECIALLY, --- Feb. 25, 98, Daschle, gushing like a school girl.
Using terms like "by whatever means necessary" and listen to him today.

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/949198/posts


Bush didn't have anything to do with this.

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[Dad Man]

If ever there was a thread that deserved a lock...

Today's oxymoron: Honest politician.

[beaconblackleg]

Originally Posted by lisa

Oh and you think ole bush in overalls is the dignity the office deserves? Rather have a frat house than a barn!

Less than stellar dress code is a far cry from fellatio. Barn? Might be your personal proclivities coming into.

Originally Posted by lisa

And if your father screwed it up the first time-why not ask him how to screw it up the second time!! I would rather he took out saddam when he had the chance, but he didn't so sonny spanked him for daddy.

Don't see how it was "screwed up" either time. The main objective was accomplished in both instances. Granted Bush Sr. should have pushed to topple Saddam while we were already there but that's moot now. To attribute the recent war in Iraq to our President's desire to please his Father is laughable. You can use all the cutesy relational references you like but it doesn't hide the glaring flaws in your paran.. farfetched theories

Originally Posted by lisa

Glad 600 lives are a SMALL price to you-glad one of them wasn't yours or we wouldn't be chatting.

How many lives were lost during the colonial wars? The WW's? Korea? Vietnam? Pick any of them you like the death tolls are a bit north of 600 huh. Now a nation of people have the opportunity to live in a free country. Maybe you don't appreciate the value of that, but I do.

Originally Posted by lisa

Glad you have all of the answers. Mis-informed as they are. Common sense has NOTHING to do with politics-what rock did you crawl out from under? When has politics had anything to do with common sense-never in my lifetime!!!

I never claimed to have all the answers. I do put more thought into my responses rather than the knee-jerk anti-government tripe you seem to thrive on. Everything in life involves common sense. Folks don't always use it, but they should. Hi!

Oh... I don't live under a rock, I live in a condo. But take heart you're scathing wit is not lost on me.

Regarding your *cough* military opinions why comment on it when you clearly don't understand it? The Nat. Guard is just as much part of the military as any other branch. Yes it's served as an safer out for those not willing to fully repay the country for their freedom but hey, to each his own. Frankly the military is not for everyone and folks need to get that through their freakin' skulls. People do join the Guard and regular branches simply for the benefits. To fault the military because those folks have to fight is just plain 'ole stupid. No way to coat it. That's just a stupid thing to say. I can here you now "I got a job with the Fire Department but I didn't think I'd actually have to put out fires!! WTF!!!"


Some of your views are horribly askew and while I'd like to try to help you understand the concepts of honor, sense of duty and love of country to you I just don't think you'd get it.

[lisa]

Originally Posted by beaconblackleg

Less than stellar dress code is a far cry from fellatio. Barn? Might be your personal proclivities coming into.


You are the one who brought up dignity. And what exactly is undignified about fellatio-ever had it? Obviously missionary is the only position for you!!!


Don't see how it was "screwed up" either time. The main objective was accomplished in both instances. Granted Bush Sr. should have pushed to topple Saddam while we were already there but that's moot now. To attribute the recent war in Iraq to our President's desire to please his Father is laughable. You can use all the cutesy relational references you like but it doesn't hide the glaring flaws in your paran.. farfetched theories

Oh well, you obviously want to just believe (like ducks in a row) the republican party line......


How many lives were lost during the colonial wars? The WW's? Korea? Vietnam? Pick any of them you like the death tolls are a bit north of 600 huh. Now a nation of people have the opportunity to live in a free country. Maybe you don't appreciate the value of that, but I do.

Big difference-the colonial wars were fought here. WW2, I believe we were attacked on our own soil. Oh yeah, then we locked up all japanese americans in concentration camps-brilliant!!! Korea was not a war-check your facts-it was a police action, called the Korean conflict. Vietnam-was wrong on so many fronts-where would you like me to start. None of those lives were EXPENDABLE either.


I never claimed to have all the answers. I do put more thought into my responses rather than the knee-jerk anti-government tripe you seem to thrive on. Everything in life involves common sense. Folks don't always use it, but they should. Hi!

You don't seem to be using yours here.......

Oh... I don't live under a rock, I live in a condo. But take heart you're scathing wit is not lost on me.

Regarding your *cough* military opinions why comment on it when you clearly don't understand it? The Nat. Guard is just as much part of the military as any other branch. Yes it's served as an safer out for those not willing to fully repay the country for their freedom but hey, to each his own. Frankly the military is not for everyone and folks need to get that through their freakin' skulls. People do join the Guard and regular branches simply for the benefits. To fault the military because those folks have to fight is just plain 'ole stupid. No way to coat it. That's just a stupid thing to say. I can here you now "I got a job with the Fire Department but I didn't think I'd actually have to put out fires!! WTF!!!"


Well, you just said it-bush took his safer out-ooo that is so much better than draft dodging-seems like the same thing to me. And who is faulting the military-if I recall, I was faulting the commander in chief-can you read???

Some of your views are horribly askew and while I'd like to try to help you understand the concepts of honor, sense of duty and love of country to you I just don't think you'd get it.

Takes one to know one and you know us all-don't you oh skewed one!!!

Honr, duty, and sense of country? Really, where did the omnipotent bush fit into that picture???

[lisa]

Originally Posted by beaconblackleg

Less than stellar dress code is a far cry from fellatio. Barn? Might be your personal proclivities coming into.




Don't see how it was "screwed up" either time. The main objective was accomplished in both instances. Granted Bush Sr. should have pushed to topple Saddam while we were already there but that's moot now. To attribute the recent war in Iraq to our President's desire to please his Father is laughable. You can use all the cutesy relational references you like but it doesn't hide the glaring flaws in your paran.. farfetched theories




How many lives were lost during the colonial wars? The WW's? Korea? Vietnam? Pick any of them you like the death tolls are a bit north of 600 huh. Now a nation of people have the opportunity to live in a free country. Maybe you don't appreciate the value of that, but I do.


I never claimed to have all the answers. I do put more thought into my responses rather than the knee-jerk anti-government tripe you seem to thrive on. Everything in life involves common sense. Folks don't always use it, but they should. Hi!


Regarding your *cough* military opinions why comment on it when you clearly don't understand it? The Nat. Guard is just as much part of the military as any other branch. Yes it's served as an safer out for those not willing to fully repay the country for their freedom but hey, to each his own. Frankly the military is not for everyone and folks need to get that through their freakin' skulls. People do join the Guard and regular branches simply for the benefits. To fault the military because those folks have to fight is just plain 'ole stupid. No way to coat it. That's just a stupid thing to say. I can here you now "I got a job with the Fire Department but I didn't think I'd actually have to put out fires!! WTF!!!"



Some of your views are horribly askew and while I'd like to try to help you understand the concepts of honor, sense of duty and love of country to you I just don't think you'd get it.

You are the one who brought up dignity. And what exactly is undignified about fellatio-ever had it? Obviously missionary is the only position for you!!!

Oh well, you obviously want to just believe (like ducks in a row) the republican party line......

Big difference-the colonial wars were fought here. WW2, I believe we were attacked on our own soil. Oh yeah, then we locked up all japanese americans in concentration camps-brilliant!!! Korea was not a war-check your facts-it was a police action, called the Korean conflict. Vietnam-was wrong on so many fronts-where would you like me to start. None of those lives were EXPENDABLE either.


You don't seem to be using yours (common sense) here.......

Well, you just said it-bush took his safer out-ooo that is so much better than draft dodging-seems like the same thing to me. And who is faulting the military-if I recall, I was faulting the commander in chief-can you read???


Takes one to know one and you know us all-don't you oh skewed one!!!

Honr, duty, and sense of country? Really, where did the omnipotent bush fit into that picture???

[saxonburgcruiser]

Originally Posted by lisa

You are the one who brought up dignity. And what exactly is undignified about fellatio-ever had it? }

What is undignified about it is when it is performed in a sacred icon of our nation...the white house. What is undignified about it is when it is performed on a married president during working hours with a girl who is less than half his age. maybe this is OK with you, and maybe you believe in situational ethics, but i can assure you that you are holding a minority opinion.

Quite frankly, BIll Clinton was the most crooked individual ever to occupy the white house. He was(and is), a national embarrasment. He is a criminal and should be in jail right now. The reason that so many people keep bringing up BC is becasue of the HUGE double standard we now see. Geroge Bush farts and he is criticized by the mainstream media over and over. BC commits multiple crimes and is given a pass. That crap gets old after a while. The double standard is enough to make us sick.
BC wasn't held accuntable for ANYTHING. Since that was the case, then the libs have no right to attack Bush for anything.

I thnk the country took a "national shower" after that scumbag finally left washington....of course before the children left, they had to vandalize the place...what a bunch of assholes.

[OC Cruzer]

Originally Posted by OC Cruzer

Would you like to credit President Bush's strong and decisive response to the events of 9-11 for stopping further attacks on our soil ? ? ?

QUOTE=taikuchin]
It was the response of the US Military that stopped further attacks (Bill Clinton's military)...

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Correct,---AFTER President Bush ordered the response.

The sad thing is, if bill clinton had used "bill clinton's military" at ANY TIME after the first bombing of the World Trade Center, when Al Queda was growing and developing into a bigger treat, we may never have had a 9/11.

clinton had YEARS to recognize and deal with the threat.
Why was it left up to G. Bush to use "bill clinton's military"?

It only took Bush MONTHS, to recognize the threat and deal DECISIVELY with it.
By acting quickly it sounds like, according to the article, that at least EIGHT to TEN other planned targets never got hit.

President Bushs quick response to the events of 9/11 were completely unexpected by Al Queda.
They were used to a do little, or nothing President.

Read the article,
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20040...0655-9785r.htm


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[beaconblackleg]

Originally Posted by lisa

You are the one who brought up dignity. And what exactly is undignified about fellatio-ever had it? Obviously missionary is the only position for you!!!

Saxonburg pretty much spelled it out for you. If it needs to be put any simpler I'll grab some flash cards. I'll write off that last bit as a joke, inappropriate, but a joke none the less.

Originally Posted by lisa

Oh well, you obviously want to just believe (like ducks in a row) the republican party line......

Sorry, but I'm not a Republican.

Originally Posted by lisa

Big difference-the colonial wars were fought here. WW2, I believe we were attacked on our own soil. Oh yeah, then we locked up all japanese americans in concentration camps-brilliant!!! Korea was not a war-check your facts-it was a police action, called the Korean conflict. Vietnam-was wrong on so many fronts-where would you like me to start. None of those lives were EXPENDABLE either.

Oh, so it matters where they are standing when they are killed? Attacked on our soil, yeah that hasn't happened since has it. The "detention" camps were unfortunate, but given the rampant fear and paranoia after the attack in Hawaii it's not hard to understand their frame of mind. You happen to remember what it was like right after that thing with the plane in NY right? lol, I tell you what hunt down your good walkin' shoes and head down to your local VFW and tell all the Vets who served in Korea it wasn't a war. I'm just guessing but might find a difference of opinion with them too. Aye, Vietnam was horrible, the point you missed (well one of the many) is that death toll for both combat and suicide rates was worse in almost every previous conflict in which we've been involved. And never did I say expendable. There's not a single life lost during ANY war that shouldn't be mourned. But there's a cost to war.

Originally Posted by lisa

You don't seem to be using yours (common sense) here.......

Well, you just said it-bush took his safer out-ooo that is so much better than draft dodging-seems like the same thing to me. And who is faulting the military-if I recall, I was faulting the commander in chief-can you read???

Riiiiighto. Seems like the same thing to you? heh, exactly.

Aye I do read, and considerably better than you it would seem. Here we are seven some odd pages later and you still can't bring yourself to acknowledge that you're initial post was not only inaccurate but baseless as well.

Originally Posted by lisa

Takes one to know one and you know us all-don't you oh skewed one!!!

err, one what? Oh skewed you mean? I take exception with that. Certainly most of us have no trouble spotting those among us that appear to be a few bricks shy of a house. Hi!

Originally Posted by lisa

Honr, duty, and sense of country? Really, where did the omnipotent bush fit into that picture???

eek. If you're going to quote me at least make an effort to be accurate. H-O-N-O-R; SENSE of Duty; LOVE of Country. Again talk to the fellas down at the local VFW, they can explain it to you. Omnipotent? Oh, *snicker* that's right you refer to him as being omnipotent because you believe he only used his Captain Thunder Secret Decoder Ring when he says intelligence sources right?

*P.S. - VFW stand for: Veterans of Foreign Wars.

[taikuchin]

Originally Posted by saxonburgcruiser

Geroge Bush farts and he is criticized by the mainstream media over and over. .

When dubya "farted", it cost the lives (almost 600 to date) of American service men & women. Bill Clinton's indiscretions mearly p/o'd a bunch of raving right wing wackos...so what?. Your grasp of history was obviously obtained on talk radio from the likes of rash limblow & the rest of the drug addled pogues who bleet & bellow about the Clinton family.

[saxonburgcruiser]

Originally Posted by taikuchin

When dubya "farted", it cost the lives (almost 600 to date) of American service men & women. Bill Clinton's indiscretions mearly p/o'd a bunch of raving right wing wackos...so what?. Your grasp of history was obviously obtained on talk radio from the likes of rash limblow & the rest of the drug addled pogues who bleet & bellow about the Clinton family.

I have said it before and i will say it again...you paying attention this time???I DO NOT LISTEN TO RUSH LIMBAUGH. BILL CLINTON COMMITTED PERJURY....PERJURY IS A CRIME. THAT MAKES HIM A CRIMINAL...now, what part of that don't you understand???