Oh boy, bush is just wonderful!

[Mark1]

I beleave they are defending our country. We are just not waiting to have the war on our soil. If thats what you want .... Ill leave that one alone.

The WMDs are real as we gave them to him and he has used them on his own people! The fact that we did not find them now is highly insignificant. Some cry "but we had 12 years to find them...." But that is 12 years of them telling us whare to go look.( as if they would send us in the right place) Besides it was 12 people looking in the size of california. I could stand on a street corner, not even hiding, someware in California. How long do you think it will take you to drive to every street corner in CA. and find me. Now how about if i hide in a closet someware in CA. Can you find me now? I think you get the point.

But Saddams attempts to buy nuclear wepons is what made the decision. I have no doubt that he would use it once he obtained one. Would he personaly push the button....no he would hire a cell to do it. So the liberals will still love him.

But Who did what as far as party lines is moot. If Cry-Baby Al had been president every body would be on the other sides. The Republicans would be crying foul. And the Dummycrats would be on the defense. This is not disputable. If you think it is you probably have never paid attention to politics.

One of our reps in congress is a persional friend of my fathers for the last 20 years and Dad gets a lot of the inside stuff he is able to talk about. And every body is useing this as a re-eliction tool more than a lets-do-the-right-thing. And every body arguing about it is for not as there is a ton of info we as common citizens will never have.

[satellite66]

Originally Posted by lisa

Hello-because he sent them there in order to find the elusive WMD and attempt to link iraq to alquaida.

Do you want to see more quotes of dems saying Saddam had WMDs and was linked to terrorism?

Originally Posted by lisa

A drunken driver and a coke head.

Roger Clinton has nothing to do with this.

Originally Posted by lisa

get them back to defending OUR country.


AMEN-where did the 2 towers stand that got destroyed-get the troops here to defend US on OUR soil.

Oh so you would rather wait until they come here to fight this war? I prefer taking it to those who sponsor, support and aid terrorists on their home turf not ours. If we wait until they get here we will have more 9-11s not less.

Originally Posted by lisa

Yes they volunteered-does that make them expendable?

Are you for real?

[Dreamacre]

Originally Posted by lisa

Anyone but me hear the news? Seems our troops in the Middle East are committing suicide in record numbers.

Once again, it must be Bush's fault


Give me a break!

[lisa]

Originally Posted by satellite66

Roger Clinton has nothing to do with this.

Still not copping to bush's failings-he was arrested for possession-and for drunken driving.

Yes, I am for real. Pi$$ off enough of the african continent and they will be here to fight on our soil. There are no WMD in Iraq-if there are, then someone needs to PROVE it.

[Dreamacre]

Originally Posted by lisa

Still not copping to bush's failings-he was arrested for possession-and for drunken driving.

Yes, I am for real. Pi$$ off enough of the african continent and they will be here to fight on our soil. There are no WMD in Iraq-if there are, then someone needs to PROVE it.

Compared to Ted "Coward" Kennedy who was so drunk he let a girl drown ?

Or Slick Willie Clinton fondling and raping women as he pleased?

Or John "Flip Flop" Kerry who says whatever the voters want to hear?


Iraq is a BIG sand box. I believe the WMD's are still there. Hell, Sadam claimed he had no fighter Jets, yet he had 8 of them buried in the sand.

[satellite66]

Originally Posted by lisa

Still not copping to bush's failings-he was arrested for possession-and for drunken driving.
There are no WMD in Iraq-if there are, then someone needs to PROVE it.

DUI yes possession? NO. Stop listening to the DNC propaganda.
As far as WMDs in Iraq, first it was Saddams burden to prove he no longer had them. That is what the dozen + UN resolutions called for along with the original surrender. Up until Bush won the election there never was any question that Saddam had them, the question was where was he hiding them or he had to prove he destroyed them. The inspectors were kicked out. Saddam had yrs to hide or relocate them.

Originally Posted by lisa

Yes, I am for real. Pi$$ off enough of the african continent and they will be here to fight on our soil.

I don't get the statement. What are you trying to say?
I asked if your were for real because do you really believe that any president dem or pub thinks that our troops are expendable?

[lisa]

Originally Posted by Dreamacre

Compared to Ted "Coward" Kennedy who was so drunk he let a girl drown ?

Or Slick Willie Clinton fondling and raping women as he pleased?

Or John "Flip Flop" Kerry who says whatever the voters want to hear?


Iraq is a BIG sand box. I believe the WMD's are still there. Hell, Sadam claimed he had no fighter Jets, yet he had 8 of them buried in the sand.

A little angry towards dems?? I slam bi-partisan!

Did clinton rape anyone?? I don't think so. Anyone who comes to a man's hotel room (any man including mike tyson or kobe bryant) during the wee hours should know why they have been summoned. You don't show up for a booty call and then claim harassment.

Don't like kerry and we all know that the kennedy's could kill someone at high noon on main street and then get by with it-they have always done it. Not saying it is right, but they do it.

[lisa]

Originally Posted by satellite66

DUI yes possession? NO. Stop listening to the DNC propaganda.
As far as WMDs in Iraq, first it was Saddams burden to prove he no longer had them. That is what the dozen + UN resolutions called for along with the original surrender. Up until Bush won the election there never was any question that Saddam had them, the question was where was he hiding them or he had to prove he destroyed them. The inspectors were kicked out. Saddam had yrs to hide or relocate them.



I don't get the statement. What are you trying to say?
I asked if your were for real because do you really believe that any president dem or pub thinks that our troops are expendable?

Just because daddy sent him to rehab and got his record expunged, doesn't mean he wasn't arrested for possession-he was.

Why does someone have to prove they do not have something-you should have to prove they do-beyond a reasonable doubt. I do not think anyone has seen any-anyone here seen any WMD in Iraq? I know I cannot find anyone who says they exist except in bush's small mind.

I am not the one who said that death is what the troops signed up for-that was someone else here. You know-they can't just get an education and the GI bill they are supposed to DIE for their country. It was something along those lines-they signed up for death. Makes no sense to me. Mark1 said that was what they volunteered for.

[Dad Man]

Originally Posted by -GW-

Lisa,
I have to question the title of your post. Regardless of the numbers why the attempt to blame the suicide rate in Iraq on President Bush?
If the rate was low would you credit him for that too??
These are soldiers, doing what they signed up to do. As a veteran of a previous conflict, I know that things can be depressing, especially being away from home, under tough conditions, for a long period of time. Maybe that has something to do with the rate, not the fact that the President sent them there.

-GW-

Word!

Saying it's Bush's war and then dwelling on any negatives is politics, pure and simple. We abide terrorists and tyrants at our own peril. It doesn't take a history or poli-sci major to see that.


John

[satellite66]

Originally Posted by lisa

Just because daddy sent him to rehab and got his record expunged, doesn't mean he wasn't arrested for possession-he was.

Why does someone have to prove they do not have something-you should have to prove they do-beyond a reasonable doubt. I do not think anyone has seen any-anyone here seen any WMD in Iraq? I know I cannot find anyone who says they exist except in bush's small mind.

As far as Bush and possession.
Why does someone have to prove they do not have something-you should have to prove they do-beyond a reasonable doubt. Where is your proof Lisa?


One more time regarding WMDs in Iraq pay attention and read who the quotes are from. Saddam had the burden of proof.




"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002

"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998

"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction." -- #### Gephardt in September of 2002

"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998