Speakers

[CircuitSky]

Originally posted by charwoods3


you can power you sub off of the same amp as your speakers, but not like he says. you can't do it with a 2 channel, but with a four channel, you could run the front off of 2 channels, and bridge the back channel for the sub. don't run a 2 channel with one channel going to the front speakers, and the other channel goig to the sub. if you do this and play something in stereo mode, you might not even hear people singing on the right side if you have the speakers on the left channel. the sub may not get all the tones either.
if you get a decent head unit, it should power the spealers ok at least until you can get an amp for them. most of the newer pioneer hu's put out about 50x4, which is a peak rating, but is actually the same power as his amp is putting out. it is actually about 18 watts rms, or continuios power.

Please read people's posts throughly before you starting commenting on them. .... I did not say any of what you just said. I said if you have a two-channel amp then you could possibly run the sub off one channel and bridge the rear speakers off the other channel. And power the front speakers through the head unit. All this can be down just fine as long as the amp has the right crossovers & power ratings. And as I said in my previous car I had a 4-channel amp which I bridged the four speakers off two channels and the sub off the other two channels.

And you shouldn't comment on someone's equipment if you know nothing about it. Because the power my Pioneer amp puts out is 50x4 RMS and not peak! That's why I said that most people are deceived by the power ratings printed on head units because it is peak & not RMS. Most head units can't match the RMS ratings of most amps.

So get your facts straight before you start posting. It's no help if you don't. Thanks.

[CircuitSky]

Originally posted by charwoods3


I would start with the head unit. with the extra power the new hu puts out, it should make the factory speakers sound a little better. if you plan on adding a sub, then you shouldnt even worry about the speakers in the back unless you have people ride in the back often.

chad

Again, please read the original post because he already has a Pioneer head unit and a sub. He's only interested in replacing the factory speakers and maybe adding an amp for them.

[charwoods3]

Originally posted by CircuitSky


Please read people's posts throughly before you starting commenting on them. .... I did not say any of what you just said. I said if you have a two-channel amp then you could possibly run the sub off one channel and bridge the rear speakers off the other channel. And power the front speakers through the head unit. All this can be down just fine as long as the amp has the right crossovers & power ratings. And as I said in my previous car I had a 4-channel amp which I bridged the four speakers off two channels and the sub off the other two channels.

And you shouldn't comment on someone's equipment if you know nothing about it. Because the power my Pioneer amp puts out is 50x4 RMS and not peak! That's why I said that most people are deceived by the power ratings printed on head units because it is peak & not RMS. Most head units can't match the RMS ratings of most amps.

It is possible to run the sub off one channel and the speakers off the other, but the ohm load has to be the same on both channels so you would have to really know what you are doing and could easily burn the amp up. however, it isn't possible to "bridge" 1 channel of a 2 channel amp. bridging is when you put two channels together to make it into one which puts out more power and makes it a mono channel. As you said with your 4 channel, it is very easily done with it, but with a 2 channel, you can only run a sub on it if you bridge it into 1 channel.
As for your amp, most people don't know the difference in rms and peak rating. I apologise if your amp is rated 50x4 rms. I bet if you look on box cover, it lists the peak output instead of rms as how much power it produces. If it is 50x4 rms, then i bet the box cover says 100x4 or 75x4 which are peak ratings

Originally posted by PT Blueman



CircuitSky,
You run any of your speakers through the same amp as your subs?
Do you have a separate amp for the speakers or do you run them from the head unit?

I have only Pioneer 50x4
300watt RF Amp

Where is the sub? Looks like he listed 2 amps or maybe his hu amp and the rf amp, but i don't see any subs. maybe i am missing something?? or maybe someone else needs to read the posts more clearly??

later,
chad

[marvin]

If your just replacing oem to get a little more out of them do yourself a favor and go with any of the JBL family of speakers. Your freq. response will im prove and depending on your cash flow so will your power handleing. All the speaker in the PT are in bad spots. By your feet or far in the back. If you want to really make a noticable change in clarity leave the oem's for now and add another set of tweeters in the mirror cap in your car door. The highs will sings their sweet songs finally in your car.

just an opion from and audio engineer.